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We have hospital drains clogging up with dialysis effluent. The drains are cast iron so it's hard to find the best disinfectant and or method for disinfection (Frequency/Strength). All inputs are very appreciated. Hopefully Florian will have an informative input. Thanks again.
 
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<bikertech>
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Draingel works well
 
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draingel masks the smell but doesnt solve the problem from what i hear
 
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<AcuteTech>
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San Augustine

we have the exact situation as you. As a matter of fact, our drains were so bad at one point they clogged and the crap leaked down through the ceiling into patient rooms. Our drains are behind fake walls with panels on them so they are not easy to see or get at. Anyway, our plumbers cleaned them out and they come up quarterly to snake them. Every monday I dump about 2 gallons of blaech down each drain. Once a month after disinfecting the loop I use draingel and it will set overnight. I still get the garbage building up. although not near as bad. If you come up with a magic potion, post it.
 
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<Zapper>
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Chlorine dioxide, mixed on site, is the best thing for killing biofilm.
 
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<Guest>
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You might want to google Chlorine dioxide.
 
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Yeah that sounds kind of dangerous
 
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<North>
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Dialysis effluent can contain human protein and if the drains are left untreated this protein may build up. Daily bleach of dialysis machines will reduce the amount of build-up in your drains. Here we used to do re-use of dialyzers and protein build-up in the dialyzer reprocessing machines was an issue we had to deal with regularly. The stuff would clog internal filters. We then inspected the drain stacks and found more of this gunk. After adopting a daily bleach procedure of the re-use machines as opposed to mincare(which was what we were using) the problem was greatly reduced.
 
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I don't know if it would work or not but....If you have ozone for your bicarb system, could you run ozonated water down the drains?

Chuck


DISCLAIMER : My opinions and views are mine and may not be the same as my employer.
 
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<Zapper>
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Been using Chlorine dioxide for years with no problems. We mix on site and apply where needed. Triple the killing power of bleach at normal pH. Plus ClO2 removes biofilm, which bleach (at any concentration) is ineffective at doing. ClO2 is used in a ton of everyday applications and is no more dangerous than 6% bleach or concentrated hydrogen peroxide or formaldehyde.
 
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Thank you these are good suggestions, keep them coming.
Chuck W -

We are not using an SDS system or anything like that in our hospital because the demand for acute dialysis is not large here. Our chronic unit does use ozone and we have never had a problem with buildup there.
The unit i'm talking about is in the acute unit (hospital). The building has been here for over 50 years and is using a cast - iron drain... The room is too small to insert an sds system with ozone capabilities.
 
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Zapper, would you please email me your policy and procedure? Also, if you would, please state where you get the product at. My email address is Jhordsa@yahoo.com. Thank you!
 
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<Renal>
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Try Renalin.
 
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Uhm... no. lol, There are some things not worth trying. I get enough Renalin when I disinfect the RO.
 
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My guess is that you didn't have one for this. You may want to create one so you are in compliance.
 
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