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Any cool ideas on holding incoming H2O line separate from effluent drain line while transporting acute machines?

Different colored hooks / straps / clamps / buckets?

Anyone been dinged for not keeping them separate?


Biomed Boy
 
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When I worked Acutes I always put a glove on each line and wrapped it around the line with tape.
 
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Hi Biomed Boy

One idea that I had (but I have never personally done yet) is to make two small manifolds similar to the shunt door setup of a Fresenius machine. You should be able to find couloured plastic male hanson connectors. This would keep everything seperate. All we currently do is to wrap up the lines onto the RO cart.
 
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We put a clean glove over each line and tie it using the fingers of the glove. We do the same when transporting and storing our spare machines.
 
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I know the glove thing is a common practice, and it probably help keep effluent off the floor. My concern is when incoming H2O, reject to drain, and dialysis effluent all ride in the same glove-or all gathered in the same coil of tubing on the cart.

Canada Tech, I like the QD idea. My incoming H2O is the only QD fitting that I have-all others are just tubing. That could work. I think I'll make a mate for the incoming H2O to dock with, and a PVC manifold with 3/8" fingers sticking up for my other hoses to travel in. They might even route to a jug or something.

Thanks for the input. More is welcomed.


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We don't use the same glove for all three. We use a separate glove for the product water, incoming water, and reject water.
 
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I appreciate your careful practices.

The clinic manager and I are just trying to be ultra proactive. If there is a policy in writing, and clearly marked places and connections for things, then there is little question from inspection agencies.

We're shooting for simple and clear management and separation of source and waste tubing.

More ideas will be appreciated.


Biomed Boy
 
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I put shut-off QD's on both lines as they come out of machine using extention hoses. With 1 being male-the other female out of machine, and the extentions opposite so that they cannot be reversed. Using the shut-off QD's for all connections prevents leaks/spills.
Works great!!
Ryan Herco has some large, easy to use, and durable ones available.
 
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Thanks. That's where I'm at. Color coding and mated connectors that cannot be mismatched-even if you try. (Different sizes and types!) All with shut-offs.
We're also going to have a set schedule for routine replacement of all exterior tubing instead of, "as needed". The tubing will be dated to indicate compliance with our written schedule.
Too much? I know it is. Hyper-compliance, that's our game.


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I have the Fresenius K machine with the F-801 RO. I'm connecting the RO waste and the Dialysis machine waste line with a barbed "Y" fitting and a QD on the RO waste line. I'm also concerned about patient safety. Wouldn't monthly culturing of the RO and Dialysate assure that the dialysate waste is not contaminating the RO.
 
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Sorry if I wasn't clear. My concern was not waste-to-waste contamination, it was waste-to-source contamination.

We've ended up with incoming H2O with a CPC QD w/ shut-off, which rides on the IV pole when in transit. The RO reject and dialysis drain are tie wrapped together, and will be coiled on the RO cart w/glove.


Biomed Boy
 
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Be careful if you're using QD's on both the inlet and waste lines. I know that you say you're putting male QD on one and female on the other, but if they're the same manufacturer, then that means they fit together (inlet will plug into the drain line). Staff WILL plug these into each other. Learn from my experience. Use two different manufacturers for the QD's. Big Grin
 
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I have different style connections on each to guarantee no possible misconnection wihtout active use of tools to change fittings.

Sad reality we deal with at times.


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