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Yes I have an answer-"WHAT" ??????

The more hurried I am, the more behind I get...Safety Issues?...I don' need no safety issues...Most PCT's are safety issues...

Look at the order your doing things. Most manual are written by people who are not doing the PM or don’t care how long it takes. Some steps you can group together when you have the machine off or when you are in service mode.

fish311, I suggest you bleach disinfect the machine first before anything else, In doing so you are assured of your safety, don't forget to use gloves (when necessary) and protective eyeglass too

I've got performing annual pm's down to an art.
As you do more, you will be more thorough at it.

winona has a good point. dry cals first..by that I mean a/v pressures, ph probes...stuff you don't have to have water running to perform.

fish311 - follow winona's advice. if you follow fresenius's annual pm sheet you are going in and out of service mode, you are turning the water on then off then back on again. just look at that list and group the mechanical replacement items, the electrical checks, the service mode stuff and then the non service mode things. that should cut a lot of time off the PM. it takes me about 5 hours to do a K w/o OLC and w/o replacing brushes. how long does it take for the rest of you techs to do a fresenius annual PM?

fish311. The above posts are on the money. Breakpar now. Takes me 5 to 5 1/2 hrs.

About 6 hours. I am too darn old to get into speed contests. I take pride in the quality of my work not in how fast I completed it.

I agree that following the sequence on the checklist is not efficient.

About five to six hours to do a annual up right. Jumping around on the checksheet works well so you won't waste time going in and out of service mode. I pull the hydraulic module out and sit it on a milk crate and replace all the checkvalves and springs. If you rebuild a acid or bicarb pump wrong and get a leak toss the "O" rings, seems that once they get squashed wrong they always will leak. The more you do it the quicker you will get.

2-4 hours. Checking doesn't always mean recalibrating. Throw in a quarterly at the same time, and you wont be wasting as much time as the ones up above. These guys above spend alot of time holding the floor down.

~No Offense~

I don't think I'm holding the floor down while doing a annual. Just replacing the parts alone takes close to an hour. When you go into the bicarb, acid or UF pump to replace the seals and springs you really need to check the volumes afterwards and then calibrate. I also thought that the annual pm already includes a quarterly for the H series so you can't save any time there either. The big time consumer for me is checking all the calibrations and functions. I would think that you could perform a annual in 2-3 hours but only if you didn't find any problems. Of course the entire idea of doing an annual or any type of PM is to look for potential problems and deal with them before the machine goes down which is why I take my time and do it right instead of rushing. Just my 2 cents on it

wow - fish 311 - you got a lot of interesting responses with your question. personally i take my time with the annual because i don't do quarterlys (new K's). so i'm looking closely at the machine only 2X a year. so i do a lot more than fresenius recommends on the semi-annual and do everything they ask for on the annual. I'm with "Dealer" and believe in gravity so i take it slow and steady and don't get worked up about things. I bet "on the money" is one of those techs who drinks a ton of caffiene, doesn't believe in preventive maintenance, and prefers to fight fires all the time.

FMC trainer..Bob Hassard, stated it would take him 2 hours to do a good annual PM. He's was only in the field for 30 plus years....So Im sure he doesn't know either.

I work too many units to fight fires. PM's serve there purpose.